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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jul 8, 2010 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no offense but

From Hunter's liner notes for the re-issue of "Garcia" in the box set
"All Good Things":

"Sugaree was written soon after I moved from the Garcia household to
China Camp. People assume the idea was cadged from Elizabeth Cotten's
Sugaree, but, in fact, the song was originally titled 'Stingaree,'
which is a poisonous South Sea manta. The phrase 'just don't tell them
that you know me' was prompted by something said by an associate in my
pre-Dead days when my destitute circumstances found me fraternizing
with a gang of minor criminals. What he said, when departing, was:
'Hold your mud and don't mention my name.'

"Why change the title to 'Sugaree'? Just thought it sounded better
that way, made the addressee seem more hard-bitten to bear a
sugar-coated name. The song, as I imagined it, is addressed to a pimp.
And yes, I knew Libba's song, and did indeed borrow the new name from
her, suggested by the 'Shake it' refrain."

Interesting background. I did wonder if Hunter was pulling our leg:
"Stingaree" sounds so implausible (though it really is a manta ray - I
checked!). But I guess not.


http://www.well.com/conf/deadsongs.vue/topics/193/Sugaree-page01.html

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Jul 8, 2010 7:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no offense but

I always thought it was a pimp addressing one of his hoes. I think it makes more sense that way. I wonder if Hunter misspoke.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 9, 2010 12:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no offense but

i always thought it was a john ( no NOT me ) saying that.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 9, 2010 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no offense but

jots , come on . We are all friends here :0
Wasn't that a long time ago ? Let it go .
You'll feel better .

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 9, 2010 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no offense but

well I guess we've all payed for it one time or another ha!

I worked with a guy who's divorce was so bitter he actually roughly tallied up how much each time cost him

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 9, 2010 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no offense but

John - thanks for the first real laugh I've had to today.

'he actually roughly tallied up how much each time cost him'

Priceless.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 9, 2010 10:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no offense but

I know. Sad but true huh?